Comments on: Are You Guilty of a Prayer Violation? http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/ Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:30:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: bridger http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-323 bridger Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:56:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-323 I know I'm kind of behind on this entry by a month or two, but it is a great post. Look up the Steven Curtis Chapman song "Let us Pray" and you will find the same sentiment. Prayer always "works" because prayer is getting ourselves in line with God and His will not necessisarily trying to change God's will. The plan is perfect and the best prayer for me is "I want to be in line with your awesome plan so take over the part of me that you gave me control of and do what you want to do." I know I’m kind of behind on this entry by a month or two, but it is a great post. Look up the Steven Curtis Chapman song “Let us Pray” and you will find the same sentiment. Prayer always “works” because prayer is getting ourselves in line with God and His will not necessisarily trying to change God’s will. The plan is perfect and the best prayer for me is “I want to be in line with your awesome plan so take over the part of me that you gave me control of and do what you want to do.”

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-310 Anonymous Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:12:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-310 As for the Twitter question "Obama or McCain". I say McCain because he is pro-life. Obama is VERY pro-abortion and how does that not violate God's Word? Not to mention all of Obama's radicaly scary "friends". There's something to that "guilt by association" thing, I believe. Oh there are so many reasons not to vote for Obama. As for the Twitter question “Obama or McCain”. I say McCain because he is pro-life. Obama is VERY pro-abortion and how does that not violate God’s Word? Not to mention all of Obama’s radicaly scary “friends”. There’s something to that “guilt by association” thing, I believe. Oh there are so many reasons not to vote for Obama.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-309 Anonymous Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:30:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-309 Anonymous(1)here. I've been on both sides of this. I've been the one in crisis and I've also been the one trying to help. I know what I found helpful when I was in a crisis, but I've found that not everyone is the same. What is comforting for some, is uncomfortable for others. For those of us who have been on both sides of this, it leaves us scratching our heads wondering what we should do for someone else. We want to help, but often don't know how. People just need to be real and say something like "Man, I know you're going through such a difficult time. How can I help?" And the one in crisis needs to be honest and say "Ok, here's what I really need you to do...." And don't be afraid to be honest. Anonymous(1)here. I’ve been on both sides of this. I’ve been the one in crisis and I’ve also been the one trying to help. I know what I found helpful when I was in a crisis, but I’ve found that not everyone is the same. What is comforting for some, is uncomfortable for others. For those of us who have been on both sides of this, it leaves us scratching our heads wondering what we should do for someone else. We want to help, but often don’t know how. People just need to be real and say something like “Man, I know you’re going through such a difficult time. How can I help?” And the one in crisis needs to be honest and say “Ok, here’s what I really need you to do….” And don’t be afraid to be honest.

]]> By: Michael Goldsmith http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-308 Michael Goldsmith Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:43:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-308 Good discussion here...I love it! <br/><br/>Anonymous (1) - I agree that not everyone who says they will be praying for you cops out. There are many faithful prayer "warriors" out there that really mean what they say. Kudos to them. I was simply relating the typical "religious" trap that we probably all fall into at times.<br/><br/>Anonymous (2) - I also agree with you that sometimes just being there for a person WITHOUT words can sometimes be the best thing. Knowing you care is a great start. Faith without action is dead, right?<br/><br/>Anonymous (3) - Praying is definitely not useless! I have seen prayer work in my life (and others) MANY times and it is powerful. What a great way to communicate with God! For me, it's a conversation. I'm reading through Psalms right now and trying to read with the perspective of those folks conversing with God. It has shed a different light on those passages to be sure.<br/><br/>Let's keep the discussion going! Your thoughts? Good discussion here…I love it!

Anonymous (1) – I agree that not everyone who says they will be praying for you cops out. There are many faithful prayer “warriors” out there that really mean what they say. Kudos to them. I was simply relating the typical “religious” trap that we probably all fall into at times.

Anonymous (2) – I also agree with you that sometimes just being there for a person WITHOUT words can sometimes be the best thing. Knowing you care is a great start. Faith without action is dead, right?

Anonymous (3) – Praying is definitely not useless! I have seen prayer work in my life (and others) MANY times and it is powerful. What a great way to communicate with God! For me, it’s a conversation. I’m reading through Psalms right now and trying to read with the perspective of those folks conversing with God. It has shed a different light on those passages to be sure.

Let’s keep the discussion going! Your thoughts?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-307 Anonymous Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:57:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-307 So is praying useless then? So is praying useless then?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-306 Anonymous Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:45:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-306 To anonymous.........true enough BUT try having someone be in a desperate situation and sincerely go to someone for help.....and their answer to you is I will pray for you and the outcome is not good (which happens quite often)....it can be a cop out instead of honesty(a prayer violation has just been committed!)Sometimes we just need to listen and shut up if we aren't willing to walk beside that person and REALLY put action to our prayers instead of all talk. Also just a thought! To anonymous………true enough BUT try having someone be in a desperate situation and sincerely go to someone for help…..and their answer to you is I will pray for you and the outcome is not good (which happens quite often)….it can be a cop out instead of honesty(a prayer violation has just been committed!)Sometimes we just need to listen and shut up if we aren’t willing to walk beside that person and REALLY put action to our prayers instead of all talk. Also just a thought!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-305 Anonymous Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:29:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-305 Not everyone that says that is committing the violation. Some people really are praying for you.<br/>Just a thought. Not everyone that says that is committing the violation. Some people really are praying for you.
Just a thought.

]]> By: DARRELL AND VIC http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-303 DARRELL AND VIC Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:00:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-303 AMEN! AMEN!

]]> By: Mel http://www.bucketology.com/2008/10/are-you-guilty-of-a-prayer-violation/comment-page-1/#comment-302 Mel Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:01:00 +0000 http://stephenemlund.com/michael/?p=451#comment-302 I'm afraid I've been guilty of this in the past. Our experience over the last 3 months has shown me how hollow those words can be. My intent was always to really pray for someone, but I think the most impacting thing is to actually take the time to pray with them. I think it's something I've said sometimes to have something to say...when words seemed pretty inadequate. Hard to follow I know, but does that make sense? I’m afraid I’ve been guilty of this in the past. Our experience over the last 3 months has shown me how hollow those words can be. My intent was always to really pray for someone, but I think the most impacting thing is to actually take the time to pray with them. I think it’s something I’ve said sometimes to have something to say…when words seemed pretty inadequate. Hard to follow I know, but does that make sense?

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